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I don’t know, Andy. Maybe things are winding down for the holidays—or maybe we’re all too busy Christmas shopping on the internet to think of full-length stories for the news tidbits we find . Is SMS the ‘Net,’ and can they be neutral? Several groups have petitioned the FCC to stop Telecom Censorship of Text […]

I don’t know, Andy. Maybe things are winding down for the holidays—or maybe we’re all too busy Christmas shopping on the internet to think of full-length stories for the news tidbits we find ;) .

Well, now that that’s done, I’m back to my Christmas shopping!

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My good friend and Marketing Pilgrim contributor Gareth Davies of GSINC has put together a list of the Top 40 most influential people in search marketing for 2007, and he needs your help with the voting. It’s not supposed to be an official poll–just some Christmas fun–and Gareth will donate $500 to the winner’s charity of […]

2007topsearchmarketer.jpgMy good friend and Marketing Pilgrim contributor Gareth Davies of GSINC has put together a list of the Top 40 most influential people in search marketing for 2007, and he needs your help with the voting.

It’s not supposed to be an official poll–just some Christmas fun–and Gareth will donate $500 to the winner’s charity of choice.

The top 40–of which I’m flattered to be included–is made up some names you’ll likely recognize, including Neil Patel, Rand Fishkin, Danny Sullivan, Jill Whalen, and Christine Churchill.

And if you think Gareth has missed someone from the list, he wants to hear from you.

You have until December 31st to cast your vote for me your favorite search marketer.

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In a move that should add fuel to the debate over the writers' guild strike, MTV Networks has announced that all episodes of its grotesquely funny cartoon satire hit, South Park, will be shown in their entirety on the web. MTV's decision to host the South Park archives online for free comes just over a month after […]

He'll only know new mediaIn a move that should add fuel to the debate over the writers' guild strike, MTV Networks has announced that all episodes of its grotesquely funny cartoon satire hit, South Park, will be shown in their entirety on the internet. MTV's decision to host the South Park archives on the web for free comes just over a month after they did the same thing for The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, resulting in significant boosts to traffic and ad revenue.

While the move is win-win for its creators, Trey Parker & Matt Stone (also the writers), their lawyers, Viacom (MTV's parent company), the advertisers and the fans, what's striking, so to say, is that South Park is the only show on MTV's roster sitting on a contract for a 50/50 digital ad revenue share.

Even though it was smart of Viacom to ink an on the internet revenue share with the people behind South Park, it seems odd that such offers aren't available for writers of The Daily Show or The Colbert Report, both of which are massive ad-money makers and award winners for the company. Here's what Viacom told The New York Times back in August when South Park's $75 million deal was penned:

“Doug Herzog, president of MTV Networks Entertainment, acknowledged that the 50-50 digital deal, which was approved by Philippe P. Dauman, Viacom’s chief, would set a precedent. If this is seen as a bold stroke, all the superior, because it’s going to take bold thinking to move ahead,” he stated. But he stated it was justified by the “South Park” team’s stellar track record and by the changing balance of power between the buyers and creators of entertainment.

[…] Adding to the likely interest in the revenue-sharing pact is that digital income is one of the key issues confronting negotiators for the Hollywood studios and the guilds representing writers, directors and actors, who want to ensure they are compensated fairly for their work for the Web, mobile devices and other technologies still in their infancy.

Talent will look at this and state, ‘Why not us?’ ” said Warren Littlefield, a TV producer and former president of NBC Entertainment. “Unfortunately, what you’ll probably find is the response is, ‘We’ll tell you why not you: because you haven’t achieved what they’ve reached.’ This is based upon a decade of proven success; it’s not a deal that’s made on the come, it’s not a deal made with an established creator who’s about to create something new. It’s 10 years in.”

While it's nice that Viacom has finally discovered how to leverage "the ROI of free," many fans — and certainly the writers — have a hard time viewing the media giant's selective awareness of on the web marketing as anything but greedy. So, what do writers for The Daily Show, now in its 11th year, really have to say to the execs?

John Oliver: "…all our Daily Show clips were pulled off YouTube by Viacom, who is suing them for a billion dollars. That was not at our instigation – we were happy for people to watch the clips. But instead they wanted to set up a website where they can sell advertising while the clip is buffering, although I thought we were at the point where clips don’t need to buffer anymore. So you’ve to watch a commercial for thirty seconds or whatever. So they’re clearly making money on that; they’re also clearly making money because they’re suing YouTube for a billion. So that seems quite strange when they’re saying, 'Well, there’s no money to be made off the web but we’re suing YouTube for a billion dollars.' That takes spectacular ba…"

…what I think John's trying to state is that, well, this YouTube video sums it up.


Even The Daily Show's friends (colleagues?) in the "real" news media are hearing the echoes from this void. NBC News anchor Brian Williams writes

Jon Stewart and his colleagues in comedy — along with the writers who support them — serve an invaluable purpose by skewering the pompous and deflating the egos of the high and mighty. They function nearly as a separate branch of government. We need them, and we miss them.

But Slate.com's Dana Stevens stated it best:

The Daily Show is the ultimate Web-ready television show. It's divisible into discrete chunks (the headlines at the top of the show, followed by reported segments and interviews) that tie in to the political and cultural conversations of the day, and those chunks can easily be collected, shuffled, and exchanged among friends like trading cards.

It's unfortunate that it's come to this. In a strike, everyone loses. Had Viacom invested in on the web channels years ago, they wouldn't be awkwardly wading through bad word-of-mouth as they sue YouTube and play favorites with their writers.

This is a branding problem, wrapped in a PR problem, spawned by a marketing problem. But the good news for Viacom is that it could all end tomorrow with an online revenue share agreement.

[Picture taken from myyearofnewthings on Flickr. Originally seen at TechCrunch.]

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Over at Gooruze, we’re passionate about discussing online marketing AND giving away $500 prizes each week! If you made it to the Gooruze meetup at PubCon, you should already know why more than 1200 marketers have joined Gooruze. In case you didn’t here are some reasons you might want to join. All of your friends and peers […]

imageOver at Gooruze, we’re passionate about discussing online marketing AND giving away $500 prizes each week!

If you made it to the Gooruze meetup at PubCon, you should already know why more than 1200 marketers have joined Gooruze. In case you didn’t here are some reasons you might want to join.

  1. All of your friends and peers are there.
  2. Gooruze is giving away $500 each week to one lucky Gooru.
  3. Ask a question of other Gooruze and get suggestions, feedback and tips.
  4. Write an article and show off your talent.
  5. Are you interested in taguchi methods and multi-variate testing? Begin a group of like minded marketers and learn from each other.
  6. Don’t have a blog but would like to begin one? Gooruze will let you swiftly start your own blog–without the normal set-up hassles.

There are many other great reasons to check out Gooruze. For example, Brian Chappell has started a list of Twitter feeds of on the web marketers. Wouldn’t you like to know the inner-thoughts of your fellow marketers?

Head over there, and when you sign-up, be sure to add me as a friend!

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Lots of people who've spoken with either Jeffrey or me know how uncomfortable we’re with being called "experts," despite our books and nearly 10 years of focus on marketing optimization. I've stated it before: "Gurus are a dime a dozen on the internet." The problem with taking pundits' advice is that it can end […]

other_peoples_mistakes.jpgLots of people who've spoken with either Jeffrey or me know how uncomfortable we’re with being called "experts," despite our books and almost 10 years of focus on marketing optimization. I've stated it before: "Gurus are a dime a dozen on the web." The problem with taking pundits' advice is that it can end up costing those who follow blindly a fortune. I need your help to prevent that.

Don't get me wrong. I believe hardly any of the folks who people consider on the internet experts are acting in bad faith. They tried some tactics, it paid off, and now they want to share them with others. But true experts never achieve any level of certainty without a deeper understanding of all the circumstances contributing to their success. To reach "expert" status in other industries — state, the medical field — it takes well over a decade of experience focused in one specialty. Most cardiologists would be hesitant to give you dermatological advice, as they know it's outside of their domain. It's why Nobel Prize winner Niels Bohr once stated, “An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field.

Sharing your missteps and learning from other people's mistakes is the surest path to on the web success. Are you up to helping your fellow entrepreneurs or future clients?

Have you ever taken bad Web advice from a so-called expert?

The challenge we face as marketers is that there's no solid set of criteria to hang out the shingle and say, "Congratulations! You're a marketer." It can be frightening when clients state they plan to use some very specific tactic before the strategy's been clearly defined. Usually when that happens, if you ask where they got the idea, it's from an "expert" who may have a technical or other background but certainly not a marketing background.

We've all seen designers or developers who are now preaching "expert" search engine marketing advice. While design and code have something to do with search engine optimization, the larger issues are usually marketing-related. The same is true about conversion optimization advice. While conversion has something to do with usability, multivariate testing and web analytics, the larger overarching issue is nearly always marketing (read: persuasion)-related. When our clients have a challenging search-related issue, we refer them to a search marketing firm we trust. Are there really any social media experts yet (although we might be getting there)?

We're looking for these types of stories:

  • Did you get blacklisted from a search engine for following bad advice?
  • Did you spend a ton of money on a tool no one uses?
  • Did you do a "redesign" and get poor results?
  • Did you create a "viral" campaign that nobody noticed?
  • Did you invest in the latest and coolest Web 2.0 initiative only to see a small return?

How You Can Help + Get Published

We (as in "you and I") are going to publish a free ebook. (No need to kill trees on this as I'm sure it will keep evolving with the Web).

We're not looking to name names or discredit anyone. And of course, sometimes, good advice gets executed poorly. But with your help, we'll take all the stories and distill them into a collection of truisms, then list the horror stories on so-called expert thoughts and freely distribute How to Leverage "OPM" (Other People's Mistakes): Online Advice from People Who've Been There and Done That. If you wish to share a story anonymously, it must be verifiable, so we can keep you anonymous.

Will you share your "expertise" and stories?

If you'd like to be included, tell us your on the web marketing-related stories either as a comment below or in an email to: feedback [at] grokdotcom dot com

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Do we need to change our entire campaigns to capitalize on universal search? Find out what you can do to better dominate the universal SERPs and grab searchers’ attention. Session description: Google, Yahoo, Ask, and other search engines have changed the way they present search results, and the changes have major implications for interactive marketers. […]

Do we need to change our entire campaigns to capitalize on universal search? Find out what you can do to superior dominate the universal SERPs and grab searchers’ attention.

Session description: Google, Yahoo, Ask, and other search engines have changed the way they present search results, and the changes have major implications for interactive marketers. The still emerging trend, referred to as unified search, integrates vertical content into the main natural search results page. Images, videos, news and blog posts, previously accessible only by clicking between tabs in the results, now appear in the main query results. How can you adjust your search strategy to capitalize on the changes? Learn what types of content have grown in importance and hot to capitalize accordingly.
Moderator: Lee Odden, CEO, TopRank On the internet Marketing and publisher of the TopRank Online Marketing blog

Lee Odden
Explanation of universal search. Execution is different: Ask 3D—3 columns; disambiguation/results/images & video
Live: harder to prompt video
Yahoo & Google: video blended in
(examples: Shrek III, Nintendo Wii—integrating Google News, Blog search results (as of yesterday))
1/2-2/3 of the audience executing universal search right now
Pushing site on several different channels: Flickr, YouTube, etc.

Chris Heuer
Search is the beginning of a conversation. Social media is also a conversation—search is the end, social is the beginning. Text, audio, video & stuff by people and for people. You’re people, corporations are people.

Success requires clarity of purpose. The original idea round SEO was to help people find answers (ie your content). Universal search is a natural evolution—provide many different types of info. It’s in the ideal interest of the searcher. Universal search simply requires search marketing professional to apply keyword optimization to all channels. It’s still about “filling the funnel.”

Put the searcher first. Serving their interest is the purpose, form which you leverage the “because effect.” Interruption isn’t welcome. Roadblocks are . . . blocking.

Serve the market and you serve the marketer.

Making media optimized to engage searcher in the conversation is the optimization of marketing. Universal means thinking about other media in the same way you used to think about landing pages.

Paul Bruemmer
Have you responded to capitalize on the changing face of search engines?
How can you adjust search strategy to capitalize on these changes?
Learn what kinds of content have grown in importance (and how to capitalize on those).

Is Google Backing off from universal search? (15 Oct search insider column, Mark Simon). Very thought provoking

  1. Are users confused by natural search?
  2. Does universal search make Google money?
  3. What about Google’s tabs image/video/etc?
  4. Does it erode relevancy?

He’s going to rebut those arguments.

Comprehend Google’s culture: It was created as a research project; heavily anchored in math. Massive amounts of free, relevant info. Successful search & advertising DNA created off the back of organic listings. It’s not about paid search; all about user experience.

Google’s marketing and PR people do a very good job of distracting analysts and journalists from Google’s core activities (it’s all analytical, mathematical—not emmotional)
infolab.standford.edu/~backrub/Google.html — their initial abstract/plan in 1997, got them the grant at Stanford

Is research history?
Google wants to bring DGM, video product reviews, catalogs, books, local, maps, products, web, finance image blogs etc etc etc. Research probably isn’t history.

Do people trust consumers’ opinion? yes—he expects a big growth pattern in video
Video customer reviews
Yideo product demos—videos go viral, videos in conversion
He who hesitates is lost—get to work on universal search

Bridget Shea
She’ll play devil’s suggest. Any shift in the organic listings will have affect on paid listings. We have the ability to see that visually the SERP is going to change. For any of you that read the Enquiro research with 2010 SERP, the changes are certainly even more drastic.

It looks like a major shift, but I think this will have a very small impact on the core fundamentals of search campaign management.

We’re always getting back to the fact that it’s nothing new that search has all these dynamic variables. We always have to look at “cost allowable” CPL, etc. Core fundamentals—if you’ve that intact, you’re ready. It’s just another variable to deal with. Like seasonality—holiday season doesn’t mean you’ve to scrap everything you’re doing the rest of the year. Like competition—new companies or products don’t mean everything you’ve done is completely irrelevant.

It’s very math-driven, especially in paid side.

The image is most obvious. If you put the image in the middle of the organic listings—it changes the way the users’ eyes go. If you’re getting more consideration on the organic side, you may get less consideration on the paid side.

Another thing that might change is average position. Ask3D—overall average position. We might have 2 average positions—overall and within each individual media category.

Things that impact consumers can then impact marketing. One idea: price comparison within SERP—you might begin to see a shift that could be big. If consumers can find all the info that they need and there’s a corollary B&M—if the SERP has reviews, specs, info, local address and store hours could drive your online sales offline.

Some agencies will be superior positioned already, but I don’t think we need to scrap everything we know—make improvements and upgrades to move swiftly with it. Agencies and SEOs that have full service are superior prepared—already doing paid, SEO, video, etc.

An area where agencies could make up some ground, certainly with video in SERPs—take the same video for a tv campaign, cut it up, get it on the web and add online CTAs, voila.

Additional data points mean we need to not rely on our old ways of doing analytics—big upgrade there.

You can’t rely on one great high-caliber analytics guru—find systems to make all those analytics replicable and scalable to grow business and not get bogged down in data.

Flexible technology. If we’re gonna throw in other variables, think about all the different parameters in query strings—agencies with proprietary technology and those that can modify and track parameters and conversions will definitely be in a good place.

Lee’s question: What do you think is the low-hanging fruit for the organizations that are already publishing different kinds of content to take advantage of universal search.
Paul: certainly along the lines of what Bridget was saying. Those who have the materials need to just get them up and get it going. That’s very low hanging fruit
Chris: the linking behavior around it—having an index page of your images, give images relevance
Paul: Weather.com did a great job implementing their video for earth forecast. Their video pageviews have increased 400% by essentially creating a site map of their videos with thumbnails, links, text, etc. They’re doing a great job of organizing that data.
Bridget: It’s kind of the last check on the box is once we go live on their TV campaigns is that we launch is on Google video as well
Chris: there are all these sites where you can put up your content for free (blip, flickr, youtube) and link back to the brand
Lee: promoting those different media types—upload your video to your site and submit it to those free sites.

Chris: it’s about serving your clients’ needs. They need this, they demand it, someone is going to serve those needs. Are you going to find a way to serve those needs or will you partner out?
Paul: you’ve gotta have content, and if you don’t you have to look at all the other media and find a way to provide the content or be lost in the sea of data.

Is there a preference if there’s something appropriate, tagged appropriately, it’s more prone to come up in SERPs (if video or image)?
Paul: Universal search isn’t where it’s gonna be 12 months from now. They’re throwing a lot of switches. There will no doubt be a mathematical algorithm to find what people want.
Bridget: they’re smart about how they’re testing. There’s a reason why the page isn’t filled with just video and images. You only see maps when doing a local type search.
Lee: Google Blogoscoped posted screen shots of universal paid results. Very much dynamic and in flux.
Paul: it’s embryonic at this point. Not a foregone conclusion about its direction.
Chris: I don’t see a future where you’d see 10 video results. It comes down to individual preferences and learning styles. Some people are number-driven, some story-driven. 5-1 difference in video v. audio downloads. Yeah, they’re going to other tabs and just listening to it play. It’s a matter of individual preference—may set in profiles.
Paul: You hit the nail on the head there. Gord interviewed Marissa Mayer a while ago: people are tired of network television telling them the news. People want the news the way they want the news and they’ll get it from Goolge. Google provides it to you in a vast, universal way. That’s the direction.
Lee: difference between choosing your content and random access content.

Paul, you showed a shot where there was a right-rail video pd search. Was that live?
Paul: That was live and it was gone the next day—one ad, two “videos” results, two “products” results (very like Ask 3D).

Video is easier—like to be entertained. It’s a lot less of recall and retainment. The advent of more advertainment is going to make it harder to get ROI than it is this day. The world may be bigger, but I think it would be harder to dive good ROI through video
Paul: Marketers have their centric POV in getting ROI, but that’s not consumers/searchers POV and goal.
Chris: people don’t want to be advertised to. It’s an interruption. Social graph—how do we monetize it? I’m there to be social, not to transact. Same with YouTube. People don’t want marketers in a lot of their conversations because they’re trying to get them to do things they don’t want to do. But helping them do what they want to do? That’ll work.
Followup: but why should I, then, work on my amusing video when it doesn’t help?
Bridget: It’s not just entertainment. It should have a strong CTA, it needs to be clear what you want the do after they view it.
Lee: it’s the content that gives them value but also has a CTA
Chris: this shift is NOT about selling, it’s about helping people buy. When they’re ready, they need to be able to find it

Search is a textual medium—Ask 3D commercial. I’m just wondering if this is what the searcher wants, I would submit that if someone’s going to a search engine, if they want an image or video (which they often indicate in query). If it’s not indicated in the query, I don’t think it’s what they’re looking for. There are some improvements that universal does great, but are we getting away from the easy elegance that search provided?
Lee: I have to believe that search engines are looking at click stream data—for this type of query, what type or result they go to, and factoring that data in future SERPs.
Bridget: Massive shift on local with maps onebox for local search. It comes down to preferences and local.
Paul: remember the common denominator. Google is anchored in math. As humans, we can’t do Google’s calculations. It’s gonna be very complex, how they arrive at this.
Followup: from the users’ perspective, what do they want? Are they looking for a rich media experience every time?
Paul: that’s what they’re trying to find out. Google has 30 data centers costing $2b/yr, 400k servers—they’re into it.
Chris: people often don’t know what they’re searching for. They think they have the ability to search and just find it. See what they want in SERPs. Helping to direct them more specifically to the things they’re looking for. [requiring less query refinement]

From the advertisers’ standpoint, and working with our clients, it’s around what are people doing when they’re at your site. Are they watching your test drive video? Put it in Google video and drive traffic there. A lot of this going around keyword up there. Not every result gives a universal result. It’s back on you—what are people doing on your site?
Chris: Marketing has popularly become associated with selling. The original idea of marketing is matching the value of a product/service with the audience, the people who will drive the most value from it. If we get back to that, it will changes things drastically.

Would you say our low-hanging fruit should be not only including images in Flickr and video on YouTube, but creating a universal LP—include images, video, etc. If you have a product, you want to show everything on that same page—blog, review, text, video, image.
Bridget: you’re gonna want to test that. When you have two product offerings, we do a lot of landing page testing where we give them a very clear decision. You might offer both paths. We don’t know if it’s termite or pest control. If we let them choose. If it’s a broader term that’s a brand term, again it’s going to follow the same principles. More likely: take whether broad or specific query to match to pages like you’re doing now.
Paul: example—Amazon. Long long product pages, everything on there. Do well in organic and paid.
Chris: social media grants you serve a/b markets. Helps you create serendipity—long tail keyword. Those 20 people at the end of the spectrum that call it something else. More content is superior!

Yesterday we heard 80% of clicks are on organic. One more tool bar on Ask, no organic results ATF (well, images and video are probably organic results)
Lee: Clicks on search results are on organic side. For folks who aren’t doing SEO, it’s moot. But if you’re, and landscape is changing on types of content represented, what’s getting clicks—it’s an opportunity for you

Gord: We comprehend images much faster than text. It’s a much longer cycle to understand & process text. Spend a little less time with the spreadsheets, spend a little more time looking at what makes your customer tick.

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